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Post by Jofspring on Feb 4, 2013 18:56:05 GMT
Any predictions on how this will go?
I fancy Harps myself as dark horses, looked strong near the end of last season and have strengthened in the close season.
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Post by limtillidie on Feb 14, 2013 17:21:19 GMT
If Finn Harps manage to sign O'Flynn they'll beast it.
Hard one to call Roddys filled Athlone with mediocrity but that could be enough this year.
Longford are finished until they get rid of Cousins.
Waterford under O'Brien will always have questions over em too.
Cobh will be decent some solid players down there and Colmans is a big advantage to them
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Post by Jofspring on Feb 15, 2013 19:28:12 GMT
Can see it finishing
Harps
Waterford
Longford
Athlone
Cobh
Youths
Mervue
Salthill
O'Flynn if fit would be an excellent signing. If O'Flynn was guaranteed to be fit for a season and not that costly, I wouldn't say onto him signing for us.
Cobh will certainly be no push overs and already have signed some decent players. Dave Hill is a decent coach also, or at least has come across as one so far.
Athlone aren't doing too good in friendlies, I expected better from them.
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Post by madmax on Feb 26, 2013 4:37:57 GMT
well i myself could see it as: Cobh,longford,Waterford,Harps,Athlone,Wexford Salthill,Mervue.....well something along that line as cobh have signed a good few players so they would be a threat and waterford and longford some good few new signings there.....will be a scramble for sure........
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Post by neverfeltbetter on Mar 13, 2013 1:24:29 GMT
Aren't Cobh operating on a shoestring though? Impressive start, but I can't see them lasting with Waterford, Harps and Longford.
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Post by bluewhitearmy on Mar 13, 2013 14:08:28 GMT
No hope of Cobh being in the promotion race imo. Think in the end it will be between Harps and Waterford.
Cobh wont be at the bottom either though imo a good mid table return from them which im sure they will be delighted with.
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Post by grimbergen on Mar 18, 2013 22:07:06 GMT
Any of those teams would be welcome in the Premier Division, most of them have a decent fan base. I dont mind who comes up as long as they replace UCD, they had 231 at their first home game against Derry last week, I can never understand how the FAI allow them into the league, particuarly the premier division.
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Post by elpietro on Mar 19, 2013 12:46:27 GMT
Any of those teams would be welcome in the Premier Division, most of them have a decent fan base. I dont mind who comes up as long as they replace UCD, they had 231 at their first home game against Derry last week, I can never understand how the FAI allow them into the league, particuarly the premier division. They win games on the pitch. They don't have any financial difficulties, their stadium meets licensing requirements. They also provide a massive amount of players to other LOI clubs. Why wouldn't they be in the Premier Division? |
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Post by grimbergen on Mar 19, 2013 23:56:26 GMT
Any of those teams would be welcome in the Premier Division, most of them have a decent fan base. I dont mind who comes up as long as they replace UCD, they had 231 at their first home game against Derry last week, I can never understand how the FAI allow them into the league, particuarly the premier division. They win games on the pitch. They don't have any financial difficulties, their stadium meets licensing requirements. They also provide a massive amount of players to other LOI clubs. Why wouldn't they be in the Premier Division? Their finances and facilities are irrelevant as they're part of a University with a budget in the hundreds of millions every year. Supplying players to other clubs is also a red herring, any amount of junior clubs could claim the same. This is nothing against UCD but I really believe as a passionate LOI supporter that the League can never properly develop if we're allowing in University teams. Resources should be better directed to big town clubs - Waterford, Cobh etc. UCD will never rise above the 200 supporter mark. |
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Post by elpietro on Mar 20, 2013 11:03:51 GMT
------------- 2012-2011-2010-2009-2008-2007-2006-2005
-------UCD: 506----558---610--272---546--663--546----653
Waterford: 435----466---619--434---670-1181-915 ---513
------Cobh: ---0-------0------0-----0--1122--681--368----403
---Limerick: 734---569---598---429--517--670--364-----669
Never above 200? Well thats patently untrue. You've been in the Premier Division for two weeks, and already you are getting too big for your boots. Until two weeks ago you never had crowds above 1,000, you haven't even approached 1,000 as an average in years, if ever.
It took Limerick 19 years to build a team good enough to get out of the First Division, and then it took someone to come in and give you a pile of cash to do it, and even then no one was interested enough to go and watch your team. The last Premier Division season any team in Limerick participated in was in 1993/94.
Since that that season UCD were promoted on the pitch in 2009, 2004, and 1995. Spending no more than a season at a time since 1995 in the first division. They have spent three seasons in the first Division since you were last here. They won those games on the pitch and have every right to be in this division.
They even beat Limerick in the playoffs back in 1998 for gods sake.
You say they are part of a University with a massive budget? How much of that do you think they see each season? Less than your Chairman is giving Limerick each season thats for sure.
They play attractive football, and they bring dozens of players into League of Ireland football, and no, there isn't a Junior club producing as many players as UCD do. Not a one.
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Post by Jofspring on Mar 20, 2013 18:12:52 GMT
One person thinking UCD should not be in the league doesn't mean the whole club thinks UCD shouldn't be in the league.
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Post by grimbergen on Mar 20, 2013 22:47:47 GMT
------------- 2012-2011-2010-2009-2008-2007-2006-2005 -------UCD: 506----558---610--272---546--663--546----653 Waterford: 435----466---619--434---670-1181-915 ---513 ------Cobh: ---0-------0------0-----0--1122--681--368----403 ---Limerick: 734---569---598---429--517--670--364-----669 Never above 200? Well thats patently untrue. You've been in the Premier Division for two weeks, and already you are getting too big for your boots. Until two weeks ago you never had crowds above 1,000, you haven't even approached 1,000 as an average in years, if ever. It took Limerick 19 years to build a team good enough to get out of the First Division, and then it took someone to come in and give you a pile of cash to do it, and even then no one was interested enough to go and watch your team. The last Premier Division season any team in Limerick participated in was in 1993/94. Since that that season UCD were promoted on the pitch in 2009, 2004, and 1995. Spending no more than a season at a time since 1995 in the first division. They have spent three seasons in the first Division since you were last here. They won those games on the pitch and have every right to be in this division. They even beat Limerick in the playoffs back in 1998 for gods sake. You say they are part of a University with a massive budget? How much of that do you think they see each season? Less than your Chairman is giving Limerick each season thats for sure. They play attractive football, and they bring dozens of players into League of Ireland football, and no, there isn't a Junior club producing as many players as UCD do. Not a one. You're getting over-excited here my friend. I'm debating this as an LOI fan, nothing to do with Limerick over UCD etc. My point is based on the principle of allowing in University teams to the highest football league in the Country, to my mind it adds nothing to the league when compared to what a better resourced Waterford for example could bring. I've been to a few UCD games in recent years by the way and their attendance average is skewed by Bohs/Pats/Rovers being on their door-stop and bringing the crowds. Average UCD support is rarely above the 200 mark. Your views on Limerick actually prove my point - it took us a while to get here but now that we're here we're instantly bringing something new and exciting. UCD could spend 40 years in the premier division and unfortunately they'll never do that. |
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Post by elpietro on Mar 21, 2013 11:12:04 GMT
Firstly, I'm not your friend.
Secondly, if Waterford are better resourced then they should surely have been promoted ahead of UCD by now? UCD are where they are on merit. You don't get invited into the Premier Division (except when Galway did at the expense of Dundalk).
UCD have been in the LOI since 1979, when they came in in place of Cork Celtic, and many older Cork supporters are still bitter about that, but since then they have done nothing wrong. We can't afford to be kicking teams out because they have no support, we can barely sustain a league as it is.
Whatever about how many fans at UCD games are UCD fans, they still average a solid number for the LOI, as good as your good selves.
Your comment on my view on Limerick is a load of bollix.
UCD have every right to be here, theyve shown that consistently over the years. cop yourself on and beat them on the field consistently rather than getting an inflated sense of importance now that you are finally in the big time.
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Post by bluewhitearmy on Mar 21, 2013 12:14:49 GMT
------------- 2012-2011-2010-2009-2008-2007-2006-2005 -------UCD: 506----558---610--272---546--663--546----653 Waterford: 435----466---619--434---670-1181-915 ---513 ------Cobh: ---0-------0------0-----0--1122--681--368----403 ---Limerick: 734---569---598---429--517--670--364-----669 Never above 200? Well thats patently untrue. You've been in the Premier Division for two weeks, and already you are getting too big for your boots. Until two weeks ago you never had crowds above 1,000, you haven't even approached 1,000 as an average in years, if ever. It took Limerick 19 years to build a team good enough to get out of the First Division, and then it took someone to come in and give you a pile of cash to do it, and even then no one was interested enough to go and watch your team. The last Premier Division season any team in Limerick participated in was in 1993/94. Since that that season UCD were promoted on the pitch in 2009, 2004, and 1995. Spending no more than a season at a time since 1995 in the first division. They have spent three seasons in the first Division since you were last here. They won those games on the pitch and have every right to be in this division. They even beat Limerick in the playoffs back in 1998 for gods sake. You say they are part of a University with a massive budget? How much of that do you think they see each season?Less than your Chairman is giving Limerick each season thats for sure. They play attractive football, and they bring dozens of players into League of Ireland football, and no, there isn't a Junior club producing as many players as UCD do. Not a one. That is just as untrue as UCD never having more then 200 tbf. The whole thing that UCD would not be allowed in is bull imo they have been in a far better state on and off the pitch then Limerick for years. Why should Waterford be up ahead of them? They have had numerous chances and not been able to do it so they are where they deserve. It makes me laugh though a Cork fan going on about us only being back this year, ye are only back since last season. Its even funnier again the whole "and then it took someone to come in and give you a pile of cash to do it," even though they themselves were giving out ridiculous money over the years. Denis Behan on a clean sheet bonus while he was there John Tierney getting over 500 a week while he was nowhere near the first team, there are loads in our squad now still not on anywhere near 500 quid. |
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Post by elpietro on Mar 21, 2013 12:22:46 GMT
Everything I've posted is true. Whether you like it or not. We're not perfect, we had money men in the past, though they had no clue about football and did more harm than good.
My point is that UCD are where they deserve to be, and if Waterford, Cobh, Limerick etc think they should be ahead of them then they should do that on the pitch, as Limerick did last season.
Yeah we spent a massive two years in the first divison and we got ourselves out with no help from any one else. UCD got themselves up without any massive amounts of money.
Limerick got up at last, but it took 19 years, and various owners.
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